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Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Telisha Roberts.  

Guest: Dr. Telisha Roberts, Founder and President of Creative Intentions
Host: Rushion McDonald
Topic: Career development, leadership growth, entrepreneurship, workforce readiness, and navigating today's changing job market. 

Purpose of the Interview

The purpose of the conversation was to help students, early-career professionals, corporate employees, and aspiring entrepreneurs understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth. Dr. Roberts shared insights from her 26-year corporate career and explained how Creative Intentions helps individuals bridge the gap between potential and achievement. [

The interview focused on preparing people for workplace success, leadership roles, entrepreneurship, and adapting to economic uncertainty, layoffs, and artificial intelligence-driven workforce changes. [

Key Takeaways 1. Success Requires More Than Opportunity

Dr. Roberts emphasized that securing a job, internship, or promotion is only the beginning. What determines long-term success is how effectively individuals navigate and perform once they enter those opportunities. [

Takeaway: Getting the opportunity and succeeding in it are two different challenges.

2. Always Have a Plan

One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was intentional planning.

Roberts shared that before leaving her 26-year corporate career, she spent roughly a year preparing and developing a plan to ensure a successful transition. She encourages others to proactively prepare for career changes instead of reacting after a crisis occurs. [

Takeaway: Faith, passion, and ambition should always be supported by a structured plan.

3. Career Development Is a Lifelong Process

Creative Intentions supports:

• College juniors and seniors
• Early-career professionals
• Managers and executives
• Entrepreneurs
• Small business owners

Roberts believes individuals need guidance at every stage of professional growth. [

Takeaway: Professional development does not stop after graduation.

4. Hard Work Alone Does Not Guarantee Promotion

One of the most discussed topics in the interview was the misconception that simply working hard will automatically lead to advancement.

Roberts explained that employees must learn how to communicate their value, connect their accomplishments to organizational goals, and demonstrate strategic impact.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Joaquin Wallace. 

🎯 Purpose of the Interview

To explore Dr. Wallace’s groundbreaking work in financial literacy, particularly his concept of the “financial genetic code”, and to promote his book Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge. The interview aims to empower marginalized communities with tools for financial healing, literacy, and long-term wealth building.

🗝️ Key Takeaways 1. Background & Recognition

• Dr. Wallace is a recipient of the Wells Fargo Living History Makers Award.
• Featured in the Contemporary Black Biography series.
• Former college basketball coach and educator with a strong focus on discipline and mentorship.

2. Seven-Stage Generational Wealth Model

Outlined in his book, the model includes:

1. Internal/External Ecosystem – influences from family, community, and environment.
2. Financial Genetic Code – inherited financial narratives and behaviors.
3. Financial Healing – reprogramming harmful financial habits.
4. Financial Edification – literacy and inclusion.
5. Financial Well-being – stability and health.
6. Generational Knowledge – estate planning, insurance, long-term care.
7. Generational Wealth – successful transfer of assets.

“Without financial well-being, there is no generational wealth.”

3. Financial Genetic Code

• A trademarked concept by Dr. Wallace.
• Unlike DNA, it can be rewritten through education and therapy.
• Influenced by early experiences, family habits, and community norms.
• Examples include “scar tissue narratives” (trauma from past financial events).

4. Credit & Financial Literacy

• Credit score is critical but misunderstood.
• Utilization rate should be under 30%.
• Payment history and inquiries significantly affect scores.
• Many people are unaware of the difference between consumer scores and business scores.

5. Barriers to Financial Growth

• Lack of trust in financial systems due to past trauma.
• Misinformation passed down from family and community.
• Zip codes and overleveraging can impact loan approvals.
• Financial professionals may unknowingly transfer their own biases to clients.

6. Role of Financial Professionals

Dr. Wallace identifies five key roles:

• Financial Educator
• Financial Counselor
• Financial Therapist
• Financial Advisor
• Financial Planner

He emphasizes matching individuals with the right professional based on their needs and emotional readiness.

7. Book Insights

• Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge is an Amazon bestseller.
• Includes self-assessments after each chapter.
• Designed for both professionals and everyday readers.
• Encourages readers to identify their financial stage and take actionable steps.

💬 Notable Quotes

• “You are your credit score.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed LaVaisha Davis.

Guest: LaVaisha Davis, Founder of Ell Wess Advisors (boutique family office and wealth management firm)
Host: Rushion McDonald
Topic: Building multigenerational wealth, family wealth planning, asset protection, and creating lasting legacies. 

Purpose of the Interview

The interview focuses on helping first-generation wealth builders and entrepreneurs understand that wealth creation is about more than investments. Davis explains how families can organize, protect, grow, and transfer wealth across generations by treating their family finances as a structured enterprise rather than simply accumulating money.

A central theme is that many successful individuals earn substantial incomes but lack a blueprint for preserving and transferring wealth. Davis advocates for intentional planning, legal structures, family involvement, and asset protection to create lasting legacies. 

Key Takeaways 1. Wealth Requires a Blueprint

Davis explains that creating a legacy does not happen automatically. Families need a deliberate plan, legal structures, and defined roles if they want wealth to survive beyond one generation. 

Takeaway: Making money and building wealth are not the same. Wealth requires systems and succession planning.

2. Family Should Be Treated as an Asset

One of Davis's strongest messages is that family members can play meaningful roles in wealth-building efforts.

She argues that when people think about legacy, they often overlook the importance of human relationships and family participation. Wealth-transfer strategies frequently require successors, trustees, managers, and beneficiaries. Many of those roles can be filled by family members. 

Takeaway: Family can be a strategic asset when properly organized and aligned.

3. Not Every Family Member Contributes Equally

Davis acknowledges that some family members may behave more like liabilities than assets.

Using a balance-sheet analogy, she explains that every family includes both contributors and individuals who may create financial burdens. The key is identifying those dynamics without allowing them to derail long-term wealth planning.

Takeaway: Successful family wealth planning requires honest assessment of family dynamics.

4. Wealth Management Is More Than Investments

Davis differentiates her firm's approach from traditional investment-focused advisory services.

Her firm begins with:

• Family and wealth governance
• Legal structures
• Estate planning
• Tax planning
• Business succession planning
• Preparing future generations to inherit wealth

Investments are addressed after these foundational elements are in place. 

Takeaway: Investments should support a broader wealth strategy, not drive it.

5. "Your Family Is a Business"

One of Davis's most memorable concepts is that families should think of themselves as enterprises.

She advises clients to separate their “wealth business” from their personal household and to create structures that can survive beyond their lifetime. 

Takeaway: Families should operate with the same intentionality that successful businesses use.

6. First-Generation Wealth Creates Unique Challenges

Davis specializes in serving people who are the first high earners or successful entrepreneurs within their families.

She notes that these individuals often face challenges that previous

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Telisha Roberts.  

Guest: Dr. Telisha Roberts, Founder and President of Creative Intentions
Host: Rushion McDonald
Topic: Career development, leadership growth, entrepreneurship, workforce readiness, and navigating today's changing job market. 

Purpose of the Interview

The purpose of the conversation was to help students, early-career professionals, corporate employees, and aspiring entrepreneurs understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth. Dr. Roberts shared insights from her 26-year corporate career and explained how Creative Intentions helps individuals bridge the gap between potential and achievement. [

The interview focused on preparing people for workplace success, leadership roles, entrepreneurship, and adapting to economic uncertainty, layoffs, and artificial intelligence-driven workforce changes. [

Key Takeaways 1. Success Requires More Than Opportunity

Dr. Roberts emphasized that securing a job, internship, or promotion is only the beginning. What determines long-term success is how effectively individuals navigate and perform once they enter those opportunities. [

Takeaway: Getting the opportunity and succeeding in it are two different challenges.

2. Always Have a Plan

One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was intentional planning.

Roberts shared that before leaving her 26-year corporate career, she spent roughly a year preparing and developing a plan to ensure a successful transition. She encourages others to proactively prepare for career changes instead of reacting after a crisis occurs. [

Takeaway: Faith, passion, and ambition should always be supported by a structured plan.

3. Career Development Is a Lifelong Process

Creative Intentions supports:

• College juniors and seniors
• Early-career professionals
• Managers and executives
• Entrepreneurs
• Small business owners

Roberts believes individuals need guidance at every stage of professional growth. [

Takeaway: Professional development does not stop after graduation.

4. Hard Work Alone Does Not Guarantee Promotion

One of the most discussed topics in the interview was the misconception that simply working hard will automatically lead to advancement.

Roberts explained that employees must learn how to communicate their value, connect their accomplishments to organizational goals, and demonstrate strategic impact.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Joaquin Wallace. 

🎯 Purpose of the Interview

To explore Dr. Wallace’s groundbreaking work in financial literacy, particularly his concept of the “financial genetic code”, and to promote his book Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge. The interview aims to empower marginalized communities with tools for financial healing, literacy, and long-term wealth building.

🗝️ Key Takeaways 1. Background & Recognition

• Dr. Wallace is a recipient of the Wells Fargo Living History Makers Award.
• Featured in the Contemporary Black Biography series.
• Former college basketball coach and educator with a strong focus on discipline and mentorship.

2. Seven-Stage Generational Wealth Model

Outlined in his book, the model includes:

1. Internal/External Ecosystem – influences from family, community, and environment.
2. Financial Genetic Code – inherited financial narratives and behaviors.
3. Financial Healing – reprogramming harmful financial habits.
4. Financial Edification – literacy and inclusion.
5. Financial Well-being – stability and health.
6. Generational Knowledge – estate planning, insurance, long-term care.
7. Generational Wealth – successful transfer of assets.

“Without financial well-being, there is no generational wealth.”

3. Financial Genetic Code

• A trademarked concept by Dr. Wallace.
• Unlike DNA, it can be rewritten through education and therapy.
• Influenced by early experiences, family habits, and community norms.
• Examples include “scar tissue narratives” (trauma from past financial events).

4. Credit & Financial Literacy

• Credit score is critical but misunderstood.
• Utilization rate should be under 30%.
• Payment history and inquiries significantly affect scores.
• Many people are unaware of the difference between consumer scores and business scores.

5. Barriers to Financial Growth

• Lack of trust in financial systems due to past trauma.
• Misinformation passed down from family and community.
• Zip codes and overleveraging can impact loan approvals.
• Financial professionals may unknowingly transfer their own biases to clients.

6. Role of Financial Professionals

Dr. Wallace identifies five key roles:

• Financial Educator
• Financial Counselor
• Financial Therapist
• Financial Advisor
• Financial Planner

He emphasizes matching individuals with the right professional based on their needs and emotional readiness.

7. Book Insights

• Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge is an Amazon bestseller.
• Includes self-assessments after each chapter.
• Designed for both professionals and everyday readers.
• Encourages readers to identify their financial stage and take actionable steps.

💬 Notable Quotes

• “You are your credit score.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed LaVaisha Davis.

Guest: LaVaisha Davis, Founder of Ell Wess Advisors (boutique family office and wealth management firm)
Host: Rushion McDonald
Topic: Building multigenerational wealth, family wealth planning, asset protection, and creating lasting legacies. 

Purpose of the Interview

The interview focuses on helping first-generation wealth builders and entrepreneurs understand that wealth creation is about more than investments. Davis explains how families can organize, protect, grow, and transfer wealth across generations by treating their family finances as a structured enterprise rather than simply accumulating money.

A central theme is that many successful individuals earn substantial incomes but lack a blueprint for preserving and transferring wealth. Davis advocates for intentional planning, legal structures, family involvement, and asset protection to create lasting legacies. 

Key Takeaways 1. Wealth Requires a Blueprint

Davis explains that creating a legacy does not happen automatically. Families need a deliberate plan, legal structures, and defined roles if they want wealth to survive beyond one generation. 

Takeaway: Making money and building wealth are not the same. Wealth requires systems and succession planning.

2. Family Should Be Treated as an Asset

One of Davis's strongest messages is that family members can play meaningful roles in wealth-building efforts.

She argues that when people think about legacy, they often overlook the importance of human relationships and family participation. Wealth-transfer strategies frequently require successors, trustees, managers, and beneficiaries. Many of those roles can be filled by family members. 

Takeaway: Family can be a strategic asset when properly organized and aligned.

3. Not Every Family Member Contributes Equally

Davis acknowledges that some family members may behave more like liabilities than assets.

Using a balance-sheet analogy, she explains that every family includes both contributors and individuals who may create financial burdens. The key is identifying those dynamics without allowing them to derail long-term wealth planning.

Takeaway: Successful family wealth planning requires honest assessment of family dynamics.

4. Wealth Management Is More Than Investments

Davis differentiates her firm's approach from traditional investment-focused advisory services.

Her firm begins with:

• Family and wealth governance
• Legal structures
• Estate planning
• Tax planning
• Business succession planning
• Preparing future generations to inherit wealth

Investments are addressed after these foundational elements are in place. 

Takeaway: Investments should support a broader wealth strategy, not drive it.

5. "Your Family Is a Business"

One of Davis's most memorable concepts is that families should think of themselves as enterprises.

She advises clients to separate their “wealth business” from their personal household and to create structures that can survive beyond their lifetime. 

Takeaway: Families should operate with the same intentionality that successful businesses use.

6. First-Generation Wealth Creates Unique Challenges

Davis specializes in serving people who are the first high earners or successful entrepreneurs within their families.

She notes that these individuals often face challenges that previous

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Telisha Roberts.  

Guest: Dr. Telisha Roberts, Founder and President of Creative Intentions
Host: Rushion McDonald
Topic: Career development, leadership growth, entrepreneurship, workforce readiness, and navigating today's changing job market. 

Purpose of the Interview

The purpose of the conversation was to help students, early-career professionals, corporate employees, and aspiring entrepreneurs understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth. Dr. Roberts shared insights from her 26-year corporate career and explained how Creative Intentions helps individuals bridge the gap between potential and achievement. [

The interview focused on preparing people for workplace success, leadership roles, entrepreneurship, and adapting to economic uncertainty, layoffs, and artificial intelligence-driven workforce changes. [

Key Takeaways 1. Success Requires More Than Opportunity

Dr. Roberts emphasized that securing a job, internship, or promotion is only the beginning. What determines long-term success is how effectively individuals navigate and perform once they enter those opportunities. [

Takeaway: Getting the opportunity and succeeding in it are two different challenges.

2. Always Have a Plan

One of the strongest themes throughout the interview was intentional planning.

Roberts shared that before leaving her 26-year corporate career, she spent roughly a year preparing and developing a plan to ensure a successful transition. She encourages others to proactively prepare for career changes instead of reacting after a crisis occurs. [

Takeaway: Faith, passion, and ambition should always be supported by a structured plan.

3. Career Development Is a Lifelong Process

Creative Intentions supports:

• College juniors and seniors
• Early-career professionals
• Managers and executives
• Entrepreneurs
• Small business owners

Roberts believes individuals need guidance at every stage of professional growth. [

Takeaway: Professional development does not stop after graduation.

4. Hard Work Alone Does Not Guarantee Promotion

One of the most discussed topics in the interview was the misconception that simply working hard will automatically lead to advancement.

Roberts explained that employees must learn how to communicate their value, connect their accomplishments to organizational goals, and demonstrate strategic impact.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Joaquin Wallace. 

🎯 Purpose of the Interview

To explore Dr. Wallace’s groundbreaking work in financial literacy, particularly his concept of the “financial genetic code”, and to promote his book Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge. The interview aims to empower marginalized communities with tools for financial healing, literacy, and long-term wealth building.

🗝️ Key Takeaways 1. Background & Recognition

• Dr. Wallace is a recipient of the Wells Fargo Living History Makers Award.
• Featured in the Contemporary Black Biography series.
• Former college basketball coach and educator with a strong focus on discipline and mentorship.

2. Seven-Stage Generational Wealth Model

Outlined in his book, the model includes:

1. Internal/External Ecosystem – influences from family, community, and environment.
2. Financial Genetic Code – inherited financial narratives and behaviors.
3. Financial Healing – reprogramming harmful financial habits.
4. Financial Edification – literacy and inclusion.
5. Financial Well-being – stability and health.
6. Generational Knowledge – estate planning, insurance, long-term care.
7. Generational Wealth – successful transfer of assets.

“Without financial well-being, there is no generational wealth.”

3. Financial Genetic Code

• A trademarked concept by Dr. Wallace.
• Unlike DNA, it can be rewritten through education and therapy.
• Influenced by early experiences, family habits, and community norms.
• Examples include “scar tissue narratives” (trauma from past financial events).

4. Credit & Financial Literacy

• Credit score is critical but misunderstood.
• Utilization rate should be under 30%.
• Payment history and inquiries significantly affect scores.
• Many people are unaware of the difference between consumer scores and business scores.

5. Barriers to Financial Growth

• Lack of trust in financial systems due to past trauma.
• Misinformation passed down from family and community.
• Zip codes and overleveraging can impact loan approvals.
• Financial professionals may unknowingly transfer their own biases to clients.

6. Role of Financial Professionals

Dr. Wallace identifies five key roles:

• Financial Educator
• Financial Counselor
• Financial Therapist
• Financial Advisor
• Financial Planner

He emphasizes matching individuals with the right professional based on their needs and emotional readiness.

7. Book Insights

• Generational Wealth Begins with Generational Knowledge is an Amazon bestseller.
• Includes self-assessments after each chapter.
• Designed for both professionals and everyday readers.
• Encourages readers to identify their financial stage and take actionable steps.

💬 Notable Quotes

• “You are your credit score.

Listen and subscribe to Money Making Conversations on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, www.moneymakingconversations.com/subscribe/ or wherever you listen to podcasts. New Money Making Conversations episodes drop daily.  I want to alert you, so you don’t miss out on expert analysis and insider perspectives from my guests who provide tips that can help you uplift the community, improve your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be a successful entrepreneur.  Keep winning!

Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Brandon Bronaugh.

A life transition expert and one of the faces of A&E’s hit show Hoarders.

🎯 Purpose of the Interview

The interview aims to:

• Explore the deeper emotional and psychological aspects of hoarding.
• Highlight Brandon Bronaugh's unique approach to helping individuals and families transition through crisis-level home situations.
• Educate the audience on the realities behind the TV show Hoarders and the broader mission of Brandon's company, Lifecycle Transitions.

🧠 Key Takeaways 1. Hoarding Is a Mental Health Crisis

• Hoarding is not just clutter—it’s often a manifestation of unresolved trauma.
• The physical accumulation reflects emotional and psychological pain.

“You learn more about a person from their home than any other facet of their life.” – Brandon Bronaugh

2. Lifecycle Transitions: A Holistic Approach

• Bronaugh’s company blends emotional, logistical, and real estate support.
• Services include cleanup, therapy, home evaluations, and even relocation.
• The Transition Evaluation Assessment (TEA) helps clients decide whether to stay, sell, or relocate.

3. Clients Often Don’t Self-Identify as Hoarders

• Most clients are high-functioning individuals who don’t recognize their behavior as hoarding.
• Shame and embarrassment are major barriers to seeking help.

“Very few people have ever called it. I mean, we do… but what I didn’t know is what it took for them to get to that point.”

4. Health and Safety Risks

• Hoarding environments can lead to respiratory issues, mold, fire hazards, and even death.
• Bronaugh created a mold remediation division after realizing the health dangers hidden behind clutter.

5. Demographics and Challenges

• About 80% of Bronaugh’s clients are Caucasian, but hoarding affects all races and socioeconomic backgrounds.
• Cases range from teenagers to the elderly.
• Hoarding has a high recidivism rate (65–70%).

6. Spiritual and Entrepreneurial Journey

• Bronaugh started as a property preservation contractor.
• His mission evolved into a humanitarian effort to save lives.

“God had a plan. He said, no, you’re going to save lives and change.”

💬 Notable Quotes

• “When you go home, that’s when the mask is taken off. That’s when you can be your most authentic self.”
• “For every one year that a client goes without addressing the hoarding conditions… is equivalent to about one day of actual cleanup.”
• “We’re going to build this ecosystem… that we can do what most companies would take nine months to do in 30 days.”
• “The home is killing them.”

📞 How to Get Help

• Website: LifecycleTransitions.com
• Email: info@lifecycletransitions.com
• Services include in-home evaluations, virtual assessments, and a zero-contact cleanup option for clients too ashamed to be present.

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